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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.dougzell.com/2010/the-dead-line/comment-page-1/#comment-843</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience with coffee I&#039;ve found that the reward for my pursuit of perfection in coffee is an appreciation for the imperfect.  Seasonality is one of those imperfections.

The concept of seasonality definitely has some roots in our coffee culture (U.S.) though its not exactly how we&#039;d prefer it to be: Pumpkin Spice lattes, Eggnog lattes, Frappuccino Season, etc.  Starbucks customers even know when to expect Guatemala Casi Cielo and Gazebo Blend so this concept rings true with a lot of ... clients.

Starbucks has re-imagined the concept of seasonality in our culture through repeatedly getting their message out and committing to that message through their operations... year after year after year.  Obviously, Intelli is no Starbucks but the concept of seasonality can be re-re-imagined and this is something that all can be involved with.  We can surely go back and forth on what constitutes an in-season coffee but I think we can all agree coffee harvested this year is preferential to coffee harvested last year?

I say great for Intelligenstia for getting their message out.  Great for Intelligentsia for committing to that message through their operations by putting the info on the bags.  And great for Intelligenstia for calling us all to action.  

I&#039;m in... once we sell the remainder of our Costa Rica (packed in GrainPro, at least)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience with coffee I&#8217;ve found that the reward for my pursuit of perfection in coffee is an appreciation for the imperfect.  Seasonality is one of those imperfections.</p>
<p>The concept of seasonality definitely has some roots in our coffee culture (U.S.) though its not exactly how we&#8217;d prefer it to be: Pumpkin Spice lattes, Eggnog lattes, Frappuccino Season, etc.  Starbucks customers even know when to expect Guatemala Casi Cielo and Gazebo Blend so this concept rings true with a lot of &#8230; clients.</p>
<p>Starbucks has re-imagined the concept of seasonality in our culture through repeatedly getting their message out and committing to that message through their operations&#8230; year after year after year.  Obviously, Intelli is no Starbucks but the concept of seasonality can be re-re-imagined and this is something that all can be involved with.  We can surely go back and forth on what constitutes an in-season coffee but I think we can all agree coffee harvested this year is preferential to coffee harvested last year?</p>
<p>I say great for Intelligenstia for getting their message out.  Great for Intelligentsia for committing to that message through their operations by putting the info on the bags.  And great for Intelligenstia for calling us all to action.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m in&#8230; once we sell the remainder of our Costa Rica (packed in GrainPro, at least)</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.dougzell.com/2010/the-dead-line/comment-page-1/#comment-837</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On his blog a few days ago, Mr. Zell outlined a call to action for craft roasters.  He suggests that in addition to a Roasted On date, we begin to include the crop harvest month and year on the bag.  The logic is as straightforward as it is unassailable: coffee is a seasonal, agricultural product.  Harvest date is relevant to cup quality, even if it’s not a perfectly linear thing. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On his blog a few days ago, Mr. Zell outlined a call to action for craft roasters.  He suggests that in addition to a Roasted On date, we begin to include the crop harvest month and year on the bag.  The logic is as straightforward as it is unassailable: coffee is a seasonal, agricultural product.  Harvest date is relevant to cup quality, even if it’s not a perfectly linear thing. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220; Polarization &#8221; on Daniel of Arabica</title>
		<link>http://www.dougzell.com/2010/the-dead-line/comment-page-1/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220; Polarization &#8221; on Daniel of Arabica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] toward polarization are the most recent posts on Doug Zell&#8217;s (owner of Intelligentsia) blog (one, two). They represent a challenge, to be sure, but I think Mr. Zell manages to keep the level of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] toward polarization are the most recent posts on Doug Zell&#8217;s (owner of Intelligentsia) blog (one, two). They represent a challenge, to be sure, but I think Mr. Zell manages to keep the level of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Lindsay</title>
		<link>http://www.dougzell.com/2010/the-dead-line/comment-page-1/#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; We will begin to do so companywide for coffee roasted Monday, February 8th, 2010 and thereafter. It’s high time we tighten the deadline from harvest into our customer’s cup.&quot;

Hooray! Absolutely pleased to hear this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; We will begin to do so companywide for coffee roasted Monday, February 8th, 2010 and thereafter. It’s high time we tighten the deadline from harvest into our customer’s cup.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hooray! Absolutely pleased to hear this.</p>
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		<title>By: Klaus Thomsen</title>
		<link>http://www.dougzell.com/2010/the-dead-line/comment-page-1/#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>Klaus Thomsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve listed the harvest time on our website for all coffees, but not on the bags. We&#039;ve marked the arrival of every new crop with signs, happenings and oublic tastings. However, we have to be careful (in our market in Denmark) about choosing our battles. We&#039;re very much trying to push Direct Trade - and just as James says, when customers have become aware about buying practices and the price paid to the farmer, one would have hoped it would have created that tipping point where the customers really starts to question how and for what price their coffee was purchased. This I am sure will happen, but it&#039;s not happening over night. I fear that if we try to communicate too many things at once the message(s) will drown.

I&#039;d be careful about saying when a coffee is fresh and when it&#039;s not. I&#039;ve tasted just 3 months old coffees that were flat and woody because of storage in jute in a room with varying temperatures. I&#039;ve seen roasters store their green coffee in the same room they roast in and consequently the temperature in that room would go up and down in the course of a day. But I have also tasted 2 year old coffees that were surprisingly fresh. We still offer the last bit of the Idido mill&#039;s Aricha microlots that are now 2 years old. It&#039;s been vacuum packed at origin and kept in a cool storage room since then and it&#039;s still have heaps of strawberry aromas and does not taste like such an &#039;old&#039; coffee. If it should suddenly cup out disappointingly we&#039;d remove it in an instant. But until that happens I have no issue serving it. Now, this isn&#039;t to say I don&#039;t think seasonality is important or that I don&#039;t fully support Intelligentsia&#039;s move on making customers aware of it, but I think Rich Westerfield&#039;s comment above sums it up quite well. 

Anyhoooo, this kind of thing is exactly why I wish we could afford to attend the SCAA Symposium - to be able to have this kind of talk in person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve listed the harvest time on our website for all coffees, but not on the bags. We&#8217;ve marked the arrival of every new crop with signs, happenings and oublic tastings. However, we have to be careful (in our market in Denmark) about choosing our battles. We&#8217;re very much trying to push Direct Trade &#8211; and just as James says, when customers have become aware about buying practices and the price paid to the farmer, one would have hoped it would have created that tipping point where the customers really starts to question how and for what price their coffee was purchased. This I am sure will happen, but it&#8217;s not happening over night. I fear that if we try to communicate too many things at once the message(s) will drown.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be careful about saying when a coffee is fresh and when it&#8217;s not. I&#8217;ve tasted just 3 months old coffees that were flat and woody because of storage in jute in a room with varying temperatures. I&#8217;ve seen roasters store their green coffee in the same room they roast in and consequently the temperature in that room would go up and down in the course of a day. But I have also tasted 2 year old coffees that were surprisingly fresh. We still offer the last bit of the Idido mill&#8217;s Aricha microlots that are now 2 years old. It&#8217;s been vacuum packed at origin and kept in a cool storage room since then and it&#8217;s still have heaps of strawberry aromas and does not taste like such an &#8216;old&#8217; coffee. If it should suddenly cup out disappointingly we&#8217;d remove it in an instant. But until that happens I have no issue serving it. Now, this isn&#8217;t to say I don&#8217;t think seasonality is important or that I don&#8217;t fully support Intelligentsia&#8217;s move on making customers aware of it, but I think Rich Westerfield&#8217;s comment above sums it up quite well. </p>
<p>Anyhoooo, this kind of thing is exactly why I wish we could afford to attend the SCAA Symposium &#8211; to be able to have this kind of talk in person.</p>
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		<title>By: Seasonality: The New Roast Dating? &#171; Muddy Dog Roasting Co.</title>
		<link>http://www.dougzell.com/2010/the-dead-line/comment-page-1/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>Seasonality: The New Roast Dating? &#171; Muddy Dog Roasting Co.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 06:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On his blog a few days ago, Mr. Zell outlined a call to action for craft roasters.  He suggests that in addition to a Roasted On date, we begin to include the crop harvest month and year on the bag.  The logic is as straightforward as it is unassailable: coffee is a seasonal, agricultural product.  Harvest date is relevant to cup quality, even if it&#8217;s not a perfectly linear thing. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On his blog a few days ago, Mr. Zell outlined a call to action for craft roasters.  He suggests that in addition to a Roasted On date, we begin to include the crop harvest month and year on the bag.  The logic is as straightforward as it is unassailable: coffee is a seasonal, agricultural product.  Harvest date is relevant to cup quality, even if it&#8217;s not a perfectly linear thing. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: fan</title>
		<link>http://www.dougzell.com/2010/the-dead-line/comment-page-1/#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A resourceful explorer will try a new Intelligentsia release in the first month it is offered in, or at least use In Season as a guide. Obviously this should be like a gold standard, even if pesos are your preffered currency. Only then can seasonality education be maximized by comparing the standard to future tastings. If done thoroughly enough, it will be a revelatory and empowering journey.

In Season! Excitement! Integrity! Intelligentsia!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A resourceful explorer will try a new Intelligentsia release in the first month it is offered in, or at least use In Season as a guide. Obviously this should be like a gold standard, even if pesos are your preffered currency. Only then can seasonality education be maximized by comparing the standard to future tastings. If done thoroughly enough, it will be a revelatory and empowering journey.</p>
<p>In Season! Excitement! Integrity! Intelligentsia!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay C.</title>
		<link>http://www.dougzell.com/2010/the-dead-line/comment-page-1/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As coffee retailers, sometimes I think we blame the customer too much.  While it may be true that the retail customers are accepting of baggy or &quot;off&quot; coffees, but who&#039;s responsibility is it when the average customer isn&#039;t experienced and/or informed enough to know the difference?

If we (meaning those of us who sell coffee to the retail client) are serious about our craft, then I think it is our responsibility to vet the coffees we sell and ensure that the coffees pass muster.

I think of the approach of the revered restaurants of the world.  These are outfits that are pursuing quality at any price.  They taste and work with their suppliers to source the best quality possible.  Should we not pursue similar?  

James questioned how we make this important to our customers - I think that we have to make it important to us first before it can be important to our customers.  They need to feed off of our passion and excitement over the product before it can germinate in their own minds.  

But I think the truth is that we need to realize that we cannot convert everyone.  Take tomatoes in the United States, for example.  I can buy and eat tomatoes year round, if I desire.  But I don&#039;t. I don&#039;t because I recognize and love the seasonality of fresh tomatoes.  They&#039;re amazing. But the stuff you buy now are bland and insipid.  Why bother?  

While I think that way, most people do not share that enthusiasm. They&#039;re perfectly content with the bland tomatoes at the supermarket. 

It&#039;s a shame but we should also recognize that converting the masses will take time.  Twenty years ago, no one thought much about their food.  Today, there&#039;s a growing awareness of food and dining that never existed in the 1980s.  Should many of us continue on our path of passionate advocacy of coffee, perhaps the public awareness will increase for coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As coffee retailers, sometimes I think we blame the customer too much.  While it may be true that the retail customers are accepting of baggy or &#8220;off&#8221; coffees, but who&#8217;s responsibility is it when the average customer isn&#8217;t experienced and/or informed enough to know the difference?</p>
<p>If we (meaning those of us who sell coffee to the retail client) are serious about our craft, then I think it is our responsibility to vet the coffees we sell and ensure that the coffees pass muster.</p>
<p>I think of the approach of the revered restaurants of the world.  These are outfits that are pursuing quality at any price.  They taste and work with their suppliers to source the best quality possible.  Should we not pursue similar?  </p>
<p>James questioned how we make this important to our customers &#8211; I think that we have to make it important to us first before it can be important to our customers.  They need to feed off of our passion and excitement over the product before it can germinate in their own minds.  </p>
<p>But I think the truth is that we need to realize that we cannot convert everyone.  Take tomatoes in the United States, for example.  I can buy and eat tomatoes year round, if I desire.  But I don&#8217;t. I don&#8217;t because I recognize and love the seasonality of fresh tomatoes.  They&#8217;re amazing. But the stuff you buy now are bland and insipid.  Why bother?  </p>
<p>While I think that way, most people do not share that enthusiasm. They&#8217;re perfectly content with the bland tomatoes at the supermarket. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame but we should also recognize that converting the masses will take time.  Twenty years ago, no one thought much about their food.  Today, there&#8217;s a growing awareness of food and dining that never existed in the 1980s.  Should many of us continue on our path of passionate advocacy of coffee, perhaps the public awareness will increase for coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://www.dougzell.com/2010/the-dead-line/comment-page-1/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience with coffee I&#039;ve found that the reward for my pursuit of perfection in coffee is an appreciation for the imperfect.  Seasonality is one of those imperfections.

The concept of seasonality definitely has some roots in our coffee culture (U.S.) though its not exactly how we&#039;d prefer it to be: Pumpkin Spice lattes, Eggnog lattes, Frappuccino Season, etc.  Starbucks customers even know when to expect Guatemala Casi Cielo and Gazebo Blend so this concept rings true with a lot of ... clients.

Starbucks has re-imagined the concept of seasonality in our culture through repeatedly getting their message out and committing to that message through their operations... year after year after year.  Obviously, Intelli is no Starbucks but the concept of seasonality can be re-re-imagined and this is something that all can be involved with.  We can surely go back and forth on what constitutes an in-season coffee but I think we can all agree coffee harvested this year is preferential to coffee harvested last year?

I say great for Intelligenstia for getting their message out.  Great for Intelligentsia for committing to that message through their operations by putting the info on the bags.  And great for Intelligenstia for calling us all to action.  

I&#039;m in... once we sell the remainder of our Costa Rica (packed in GrainPro, at least)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience with coffee I&#8217;ve found that the reward for my pursuit of perfection in coffee is an appreciation for the imperfect.  Seasonality is one of those imperfections.</p>
<p>The concept of seasonality definitely has some roots in our coffee culture (U.S.) though its not exactly how we&#8217;d prefer it to be: Pumpkin Spice lattes, Eggnog lattes, Frappuccino Season, etc.  Starbucks customers even know when to expect Guatemala Casi Cielo and Gazebo Blend so this concept rings true with a lot of &#8230; clients.</p>
<p>Starbucks has re-imagined the concept of seasonality in our culture through repeatedly getting their message out and committing to that message through their operations&#8230; year after year after year.  Obviously, Intelli is no Starbucks but the concept of seasonality can be re-re-imagined and this is something that all can be involved with.  We can surely go back and forth on what constitutes an in-season coffee but I think we can all agree coffee harvested this year is preferential to coffee harvested last year?</p>
<p>I say great for Intelligenstia for getting their message out.  Great for Intelligentsia for committing to that message through their operations by putting the info on the bags.  And great for Intelligenstia for calling us all to action.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m in&#8230; once we sell the remainder of our Costa Rica (packed in GrainPro, at least)</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.dougzell.com/2010/the-dead-line/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its the difference between creating the market and responding to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its the difference between creating the market and responding to it.</p>
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